# The plight of COBOL mainframe programmers https://youtu.be/qNytWcW38us?si=4Yle2jeMVBM5MnK5 - COBOL popular as cores for bank processing logic - Banking programming is so different from most stuff - These bank programmers had to be on call pretty much 24/7 because the bank could go under if they weren't there and something happened - A lot of banks use the IBM mainframe with COBOL - Code could be in a code base for either weeks or decades - One bank used DB2 which was the first type of database language with IMS which is the same stuff used with some of the early space missions -